Still Driven By Evil
AMC’s adaptation of Joe Hill’s NOS4A2 just started its second season and here’s one of its stars Zachary Quinto talking to amc…
Q: How do you think Manx grapples with this new lease on life and the very raw truth of his mortality?
A: I think he’s really fueled by revenge, and that’s the driving force in Season 2. The great thing about Season 2, is that we don’t have to spend any time establishing anything. The audience knows who these characters are, what their relationships are, and we can get right to the action—which is really cool and exciting. Revenge is the engine propelling Manx. When he learns that Vic has a son—he has such judgement and disdain for Vic as a person and certainly as a mother—he sees an opportunity to both exact revenge and intervene on Wayne’s behalf. He uses that as a point of leverage, and there’s a ruthlessness to him this year. That’s how he deals with his vulnerability, he comes out swinging even harder and faster.
Q: It seems like they put you through the wringer right away. What’s that like for you to come back to Season 2 hitting the ground running?
A: It was great, and I have to say Season 2 went by like in a flash. It was like a blur for me, so I think it was partly because of that. There was no time to chew the fat. We just got right into the meat. I like to work that way, and I felt like the stories were really strong. They were imaginative and they honored the book. The backstory we get to share with the audience this season is a great element. Obviously, I was privy to that from the beginning because it’s in Wraith, the graphic novel that accompanies NOS4A2 and focuses on Manx’s relationship with the car. I was working with all that information, knowing all of my own backstory, but it was really nice to be able to share it with the audience and bring them into it. I think it will generate in them, if not compassion for Manx, at least understanding for why he is so warped and evil.
Q: In Episode 2, we see the happier times devolving into the Charlie Manx as we know him. Did that backstory line up with what you imagined for Manx before he had the Wraith?
A: I think it’s really richly textured, and it gives context to this character, who is so reprehensible. Hopefully people will have a little bit more understanding that people aren’t born evil, right? They become evil because of things that happen to them in their lives, and Manx really was trying. He really was hopeful that he would be able to provide for his wife and daughter and lift himself up and out of his circumstances, but the people in his life who he was looking to to support him and help him just treated him so terribly, and then the car preyed on that. The car that has a spirit of its own and its own agenda preyed on that, and we know what happens.
Q: What is it about the car that heightens his evil tendencies? Or do you think his tendencies were already there and the Wraith just brought them out?
A: No, I don’t think they’re there. I think there’s a deep wounded quality about Manx, which we see in Episode 2, and I think the car is an instrument of evil. I think the car — once he unwittingly aligns himself with the car — exploits that weakness and that vulnerability. It’s the force in his life that leads him to the supernatural world, so I don’t think Manx would have been on that same path if he hadn’t encountered the car.
Q: You spend more time this season working with Mattea Conforti (Millie Manx). What was it like working together? How did you approach creating that father-daughter dynamic?
A: Well, she’s a real pro. She’s a theater kid, which I can relate to, and so we had a pretty easy, professional working relationship. All of the things we needed were in the writing, and I felt like we both showed up and honored that. It was fun to work with her. I enjoyed that experience. I also worked a lot with Jason David, the other little guy that plays Wayne, this season. Working with kids in that way was so interesting, and they were both such pros. They were both incredible!
It was important for me, also as a producer on the show, to make sure that that was always a consideration. I wanted to make sure that the kids on the show were taken care of and they all had psychological evaluations and a psychologist was always around. That was important for me—to make sure that the kids were taken care of and protected against the darker nature of this story.
Q: We see in Episode 2 that Manx’s family are the first victims of the Wraith, and Manx seems to delight in this turn for the terrifying. Why do you think that was his reaction?
A: I think that’s the car itself expressing itself through Manx. I don’t think that’s Manx’s true nature. I think the power of the car is evil and that’s an evil reaction. That’s my assessment of the situation, it’s because of the car that it happens, and it’s also because of the car that he reacts the way he does.
Q: We also get to see Manx’s first time in Christmasland. What do you think he thought?
A: I think it’s wonderment, and in a way a kind of gratitude. This guy who’s been so down and out for so long, finally has attained this thing that has been such a holy grail for him. There it is, and he’s standing in it—I think there’s a kind of celebration.
Q: In the present, when Manx returns to the wreckage of his old house, he meets Wayne McQueen. What do you think Manx is thinking in that moment, certainly that it must be some kind of fate?
A: Oh yeah. A plan just presents itself to him in that moment, and I think that’s a good stroke of luck for someone who’s been down on his luck for eight years. His journey was inexorably moving towards Vic. It just happened that Wayne was in his path, so he saw that he could use Wayne to get to her. He would have gotten to her one way or another though, and probably would have gotten to Wayne one way or another as well.